basesystem has no ping capability
There are at least two providers of the ping command in the grimoires, yet neither is included in the base system. Most distros are currently using iputils over netkit, which I fully support since netkit has no IPv6 functionality.
Because of the dependencies/conflicts between iputils-base/netkit-base, it's likely worthwhile to settle on a standard. I've noticed at least one spell dependent on netkit-ping (gnome-nettool), which will cause a lot of grief with iputils based systems.
Given increasing deployment of IPv6, I propose we standardize on iputils, and include it in the basesystem dependencies as soon as possible.
#2 Updated by Tommy Boatman about 4 years ago
No issue with an optional multi-dependency at all...
Point is, some form of it should be available to the base system.
Established installs will often do what they want - fping/ping6/netkit/whatever.
But, if you're installing a new system and aren't sure whether the network drivers are installed/working properly, only having arp, rarp, ifconfig, and route as your only innately installed troubleshooting tools is problematic. Even worse if you deploy IPv6-only systems much of the time.
Using wget to verify end to end connectivity lacks some level of elegance ;-)
#5 Updated by Eric Sandall 11 months ago
- Priority changed from High to Low
- Target version set to 0.60
- Category set to SMGL
- Status changed from New to Closed
I agree with Remko. basesystem is for operational requirements, not nice-to-haves or troubleshooting. The ISO, however, should contain troubleshooting tools (such as ping or fping), IMO.