Bug #320

basesystem has no ping capability

Added by Tommy Boatman about 4 years ago. Updated 11 months ago.

Status:ClosedStart date:10/26/2011
Priority:LowDue date:
Assignee:-% Done:


Target version:0.60


There are at least two providers of the ping command in the grimoires, yet neither is included in the base system. Most distros are currently using iputils over netkit, which I fully support since netkit has no IPv6 functionality.

Because of the dependencies/conflicts between iputils-base/netkit-base, it's likely worthwhile to settle on a standard. I've noticed at least one spell dependent on netkit-ping (gnome-nettool), which will cause a lot of grief with iputils based systems.

Given increasing deployment of IPv6, I propose we standardize on iputils, and include it in the basesystem dependencies as soon as possible.


#1 Updated by Vlad Glagolev about 4 years ago

I'd not force ping stuff in the basesystem.

For example on all of my boxes (around 70) I have fping installed with a bash alias to ping.

It could be optional multi-dependency, but not the required one.

#2 Updated by Tommy Boatman about 4 years ago

No issue with an optional multi-dependency at all...

Point is, some form of it should be available to the base system.

Established installs will often do what they want - fping/ping6/netkit/whatever.

But, if you're installing a new system and aren't sure whether the network drivers are installed/working properly, only having arp, rarp, ifconfig, and route as your only innately installed troubleshooting tools is problematic. Even worse if you deploy IPv6-only systems much of the time.

Using wget to verify end to end connectivity lacks some level of elegance ;-)

#3 Updated by Vlad Glagolev about 4 years ago

yeah, agree.

optional dependency will work well, and of course the default one (iputils then) must be available on the ISO.

#4 Updated by Remko van der Vossen over 1 year ago

I don't think we need any ping in basesystem, we should have ping on the iso if it's not there.

#5 Updated by Eric Sandall 11 months ago

  • Priority changed from High to Low
  • Target version set to 0.60
  • Category set to SMGL
  • Status changed from New to Closed

I agree with Remko. basesystem is for operational requirements, not nice-to-haves or troubleshooting. The ISO, however, should contain troubleshooting tools (such as ping or fping), IMO.

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